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so i'm anxious to hear what mr. brennan does for justification tomorrow. sam? >> let me add one point to that which is the other thing the administration has done is well, we've been talking about this process, attorney general eric holder has been talking about this process. john brennan has been talking about this process publicly. we have outlined it. and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging what kind of legal justifications the administration is using. i understand the administration doesn't want to set a bad precedent here, but these are weighty matters. >> colonel, what kind of intel are we getting on the ground? i mean we have to be sure that we're not killing innocent people here. >> well, i'm going to say having spent a lot of time in combat, i can tell you any time that we have any combat operation, you're going to have innocent people killed. there is always going to be collateral damage. and indeed in the second world war, we went out of our way to kill civi
so i'm anxious to hear what mr. brennan does for justification tomorrow. sam? >> let me add one point to that which is the other thing the administration has done is well, we've been talking about this process, attorney general eric holder has been talking about this process. john brennan has been talking about this process publicly. we have outlined it. and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging...
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. >> sam, what is your take on what the hearings are going to be like tomorrow for mr. brennan. this should be questions right out of the chute, shouldn't it? >> yes. this is a major component of the president's war on terror. it's a major component of his foreign policy. and listen, there is a difference between operational oversight, which is what congressman rogers was stressing in the interview with andrea mitchell, and legal oversight. and up until this point we really haven't seen any legal justification that the administration has presented for why it can target american civilians abroad if it has determined an imminent threat to the homeland. >> well, it was written today in the "new yorker" that the justification that they're using is a comparison to military troops going into cambodia in vietnam. that's how the nixon aw incredie changes. ri and i think there is a role for congress to play. and i would add even for the american public to play to a certain extent in judging what kind of legal justifications the administration is using. i understand the administration doe
. >> sam, what is your take on what the hearings are going to be like tomorrow for mr. brennan. this should be questions right out of the chute, shouldn't it? >> yes. this is a major component of the president's war on terror. it's a major component of his foreign policy. and listen, there is a difference between operational oversight, which is what congressman rogers was stressing in the interview with andrea mitchell, and legal oversight. and up until this point we really haven't...
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mr. brennan, what about 15, 14, 11, 9? the law cares a great deal about consent and meaningful participation. contrary to what we have in the public debate and polling which shows, yes, in general you can do it. but when you get into american children off the battlefield as conventionally defined, i think you're in tough territory and i think brennan was wrong on that. >> well, this effort -- i don't even want to call it a war -- this effort has been off the battlefield since september 11th. >> what do we call a battlefield now? >> this i think is a very serious problem. i don't think it's a question that can be answered. these are all great questions. here's what i don't see. i don't see how, under the way business is done now and how it's always been done, i don't see how any of the questions can publicly addressed. the amount of intelligence that they would have to open up and hand over to you to answer any of the questions you asked would presumably compromise everything that they were trying to do. >> i have a slight
mr. brennan, what about 15, 14, 11, 9? the law cares a great deal about consent and meaningful participation. contrary to what we have in the public debate and polling which shows, yes, in general you can do it. but when you get into american children off the battlefield as conventionally defined, i think you're in tough territory and i think brennan was wrong on that. >> well, this effort -- i don't even want to call it a war -- this effort has been off the battlefield since september...
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brennan and how far down does it go? to a general? to a colonel? and there is no due process here whatsoever. and i'm curious. robert greenwald, your thoughts. why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're saying -- you're saying assassinations are taking place? is that what you call it? >> yes, that's what i'm calling it. with people around the world who have not been tried by a jury, there has been no evidence against them, and we are guessing, remember this, we are guessing this and accusing them of things that we have absolutely no firm evidence about. i was in pakistan. i spent a lot of time talking to people, ed. we've talked about this. it's heartbreaking on a moral level, and it's absolutely disastrous on a security level. >> i'm surprised that there are veteran senato
brennan and how far down does it go? to a general? to a colonel? and there is no due process here whatsoever. and i'm curious. robert greenwald, your thoughts. why wasn't this memo released to the public by the obama administration? >> the obama administration is doing everything in its power to keep every single aspect of this disastrous and horrific policy of assassinating people in other countries. they're doing everything they can to keep it hidden. >> assassinating? you're...
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at the white house they are emphasizing brennan's experience. >> mr. brennan brings, i think, not on a vast amount of experience, but a significant perspective on the battles that we wage in this effort. and the right way to conduct them. so the president believes the senate should and will confirm john brennan expeditiously. >> reporter: expect him to get questions about how involved he was in interrogation techniques at the cia. rick: senator lindsey graham will be at today's hearing on benghazi. the top carolina republican joins us later right here in america's newsroom. martha: just hours to go before the cia nominee john brennan testifies. mr. brennan helped manage the drone program. he is very supportive of it and has spoken out on it's times. it represents a concession about it white house, do it not? >> reporter: it does. the president acting a week and a half after a group of bipartisan senators asked for the legal opinion that justifies drone attacks against americans abroad. but others say it doesn't answer how much evidence the president ne
at the white house they are emphasizing brennan's experience. >> mr. brennan brings, i think, not on a vast amount of experience, but a significant perspective on the battles that we wage in this effort. and the right way to conduct them. so the president believes the senate should and will confirm john brennan expeditiously. >> reporter: expect him to get questions about how involved he was in interrogation techniques at the cia. rick: senator lindsey graham will be at today's...
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underlying the whole thing, which mr. brennan was referring to, is that they have put together so many other processes procedures. they have a play both. this is another secret documents that we are not sure has been officially approved. it has been worked on for months and months without the input of congress. we are not asking for every last detail of these programs to be released. the american public and the rest of the world has a right to know what the basic rules that are applying. john talked about the internal process. from newspaper reports, it sounds like there is a lot of input and discussion that goes on among the agencies. it is good to have that kind of discussion. if there is an internal process, people have a right to know. we are not asking for every operational detail of every attack. the basic rules -- letting people know what the rules are in keeping those rules stable is fundamental to that. host: john bellinger, how much do the american people need to know about targeted killings and how much goes on
underlying the whole thing, which mr. brennan was referring to, is that they have put together so many other processes procedures. they have a play both. this is another secret documents that we are not sure has been officially approved. it has been worked on for months and months without the input of congress. we are not asking for every last detail of these programs to be released. the american public and the rest of the world has a right to know what the basic rules that are applying. john...
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. >> reporter: a former senior intelligence official told fox news if in fact mr. brennan agreed with the report's findings it will be virtually impossible for him to lead the agency workforce in the words of this official, he should just save the cab fare for langley. jenna? jenna: save the cab fare. big story today and big story for the year ahead about who will be heading up this agency. thank you so much. >> reporter: you're west come. >> the things he said helped me to gain a different perspective and step back and take a look at my life and, i realized things weren't going anywhere, they probably weren't for travis i may have continued on like that. jon: jodi arias describing their happier times with a boyfriend she accused stabbing more than two dozen times before slitting is his throat and shooting him in what she claims is self-defense. this dramatic murder trial gets you know way again in arizona. adam housley has the latest. he is watching it from los angeles. so she's been testifying adam about the relationship between herself and the man she now admits
. >> reporter: a former senior intelligence official told fox news if in fact mr. brennan agreed with the report's findings it will be virtually impossible for him to lead the agency workforce in the words of this official, he should just save the cab fare for langley. jenna? jenna: save the cab fare. big story today and big story for the year ahead about who will be heading up this agency. thank you so much. >> reporter: you're west come. >> the things he said helped me to...
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john brennan. he's described as the architect or face of the drone campaign expansion. >> you think it's going to be tough on thursday? >> very tough. it's republicans and democrats on multiple fronts. >> thank you. >>> arizona senator john mccain will not participate in a filibuster against john hagel but republican nomination against him appears for firm. south carolina's lindsay graham hopes the president reconsiders hagel's nomination. he says these are dangerous time and hagel seemed clueless about u.s. policy toward iran. >>> president obama will go to israel in the spring. the white house says the president will visit the west bank in jordan as well. it's released no date for the trip but israel's channel 10 reports it's scheduled for the 20th of march. this will be mr. obama's first visit to israel at president. >>> there was a lot of action on the immigration front. our chief congressional correspondents explain while almost everyone agrees on the problem there's a lot of disagreement abou
john brennan. he's described as the architect or face of the drone campaign expansion. >> you think it's going to be tough on thursday? >> very tough. it's republicans and democrats on multiple fronts. >> thank you. >>> arizona senator john mccain will not participate in a filibuster against john hagel but republican nomination against him appears for firm. south carolina's lindsay graham hopes the president reconsiders hagel's nomination. he says these are dangerous...
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senate intelligence committee and the full senate has to really ask some hard questions of mr. brennan. >> reporter: critics also point out that if the obama white house wants to build broad support for this program it would be in their interests to show more transparency as to the rules which govern targeted killings because targeting an american citizen for death without judicial due process is a real departure, even from what we saw under the bush administration. jenna: big story for us today, catherine. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: right now high stakes negotiations underway in washington of the president obama sitting down with top business and union leaders to talk about immigration reform and a possible guest worker program. meantime down the street on capitol hill the house judiciary committee holding its own hearing on immigration. joining us now to talk about all this, a.b. stoddard, associate editor and columnist for "the hill." the president you point out missed an opportunity or a deadline really to put forward his budget. what's he doing instead? >
senate intelligence committee and the full senate has to really ask some hard questions of mr. brennan. >> reporter: critics also point out that if the obama white house wants to build broad support for this program it would be in their interests to show more transparency as to the rules which govern targeted killings because targeting an american citizen for death without judicial due process is a real departure, even from what we saw under the bush administration. jenna: big story for...
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this letter is the most forceful warning to date that lawmakers may stall or even block mr. obama's nominee to run the cia. white house counter terrorism advisor john brennan unless the senators get good cooperation from the administration like providing the secret legal memos, quote: congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. republican senator susan collins who signed a letter telling fox late today the refusal to release the secret memos is hypocritical. >> obama administration that released all of these opinions from the office of legal counsel about the bush administration's treatment of detainees. so, why the different standards? >> brennan is expected to be pressed thursday not only on the targeted killing program but the cia interrogation program. critics call torture and whether he was or knows the source of these national security leaks to the media shep. >> shepard: you mentioned critics, catherine, many of them are saying the president isn't really l
this letter is the most forceful warning to date that lawmakers may stall or even block mr. obama's nominee to run the cia. white house counter terrorism advisor john brennan unless the senators get good cooperation from the administration like providing the secret legal memos, quote: congress and the public can decide whether the president's power to deliberately kill american citizens is subject to appropriate limitations and safeguards. republican senator susan collins who signed a letter...